FACTORY · FAC 133

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1. A Sub-Culture 7:26
2. B Dub-Vulture 7:57

Running order of the main release. Pressings may split it differently.

• 5:00 New Order - Sub-culture (Official Lyric Video)
• 7:25 New Order – Sub-Culture (12" Long Version)
• 8:00 Dub Vulture by New Order
• 3:27 Sub-culture (7" Edit) (2015 Remaster)
• 7:31 New Order -- Sub-culture (Full 12" Remix)

New Order's tenth single. Released on 28 October 1985. The first of three collaborations with US remixer [[artist:John Robie]]. This was the first New Order single to be drastically remixed from the [album](/master/3608) version for single release. Peaked at # 63 of the UK singles charts. Unlike previous releases, with sleeve artwork, it is packaged in a generic gloss black die-cut sleeve, with credit to [[artist:512290]] for the typography on the centre labels. For many years, it was rumoured that [[artist:1069010]] disliked the remixes so much that he refused to create artwork for it. However, on the 17th of April 2020, there was a livestream of New Order's MIF17 appearance at Old Granada Studios in July 2017. In a post livestream conversation between [[artist:620104]], Saville and [[artist:107899]], Saville denied the rumour stating that, "I never had the authority to say that there shouldn't be a sleeve. No, all I can presume is that one was not asked for.".